In this episode Carey talks with Malcolm Guite—English poet, singer-songwriter, Anglican priest, scholar, keynote speaker for Square Halo 23, and one of the contributors to Square Halo Books' ⁠⁠⁠⁠Ordinary Saints: Living Everyday Life to the Glory of God⁠⁠⁠⁠ and Lifting the Veil: Imagination and the Kingdom of God —about Imagination, Time, Creativity, and the Logos of God.